Spades Question. Did They Renege?

So last year, I wrote a post talmbout how Spades is not a game. SPADES IS LIFE! That card game is serious business, and unless you’re ready to talk shit, get cussed out and possibly lose valued relationships over it, don’t sit down at that table. YOU AIN’T READY YET!!!

Ennehweighs, someone found my post on Spades and decided to ask me this question that was plaguing them. I decided to post it here, because a lot of Spades enthusiasts read my blog.

“I gotta question from a game of spades that was played the other night. We weren’t sure on what to do and me and my partner had to walk away heated.

We had a boston, called the boston and it was lookin like thats how it was gonna happen.

Sidenote added by Luvvie to explain: A “boston” is when you bid in Spades that you’ll win all the hands of the game. Risky but worth hella points if you accomplish it. And if you don’t, you also lose hella points.

The two we were playing against was a spades vet and a newbie. about 7 or 8 books in I lead with clubs, knowing my partner is already cutting them. Spades vet plays suit, my partner cuts with a 4 of spades, newbie cuts with a 10 of spades… there goes the boston. clubs dont lead for the rest of the hand. last book newbie throws a 9 of clubs.

so what’s the rules on that one? we had the game if she didn’t pull that.

We’ve looked around and nobody has ever heard of this scenario cause nobody we know reneges. I found your blog on spades is life so I figure you got some words on it and I’d appreciate hearin it.

Thanks for writing in, Alex!

Long story short: you and your partner were right. The newbie RENEGED DINNAMUG!!! The fact that she cut your partner’s 4 of spades with a 10 of spades when you led with a club (and she had a club in her hand) was RENEGING! SHE HAD TO PLAY THAT CLUB! Any other suit is reneging.

I’da been TOO pissed once the newbie played a club last. I’da took any books they won and THEN flipped the table over. Shoo…

Anyway, fellow spades enthusiasts and veterans. Am I right? Should Alex been pissed? Would they have run a TRUE Boston if that newbie ain’t renege so horribly? Would y’all have dropkicked this person? CUZ YOU KNOW RENEGING IS NOT A GAME!!!

Edit: Seems that the consensus is that the newbie who reneged is lucky he/she still got all eyebrows intact. These woulda been SOME SNATCHING on that day. That reneging was CLEARLY outta pocket. The table shoulda been punted.

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  1. B_Keps
    August 23, 2011 at 12:38 pm

    they walked away? they didn’t throw hands with the newbie? it was obvious reneging. reneggers. this is why we can’t have nice things.

    • August 23, 2011 at 6:06 pm

      RIGHT!!! The fact that they walked away is just… NAWL. Newbie got a debt to pay.

      • September 16, 2014 at 9:43 pm

        WRONG…newbie aint got no debt to pay…newbie got a asswhipping coming and side eye with a nigerian teeth suck for the next six months every time he/she walks in a room, down the street or crosses the light…..*just flipped my own table and kicked the damb dog*

  2. August 23, 2011 at 12:38 pm

    I have never commented before….but THIS!! I had to comment. First let me say, nobody sitting at that table was a “vet”. Any true spades vet would have flipped the table and pulled out a switch blade at the slightest glimpse of that 9 of clubs. That was Reneging 101. See…this is why you dont let kids play at the grown-up spades table. @Alex, you and your friends need to go back to playing Go Fish, before somebody ends up with busted kneecaps.

    • August 23, 2011 at 6:07 pm

      TRUE STORY!!! You’re right. There shoulda AT LEAST been some table flipping going on. TRUE veterans woulda raised all types of hell.

      LMAOOO @ you telling Alex to go play “go fish.”

    • September 16, 2014 at 4:34 am

      You ain’t never lied!!!! The ambulance was supposed to be on scene.

  3. August 23, 2011 at 12:51 pm


    Tables would have been flipped, drinks thrown, and somebody was walking away with a black eye…

    Just saying.

    • August 23, 2011 at 6:08 pm

      True story. Very true.

  4. DJ
    August 23, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    OF COURSE they reneged. The question is if they won any other books. If that was there one and only book, I’d say the Boston, and the game was theirs depending on house rules. HOWEVER, that newbie would have to get up out of whoever’s house that was after an egregious affront like that. They may never have picked up a card again. My blood is over here boiling for the writer.

    For future reference, my mame made her rules and posted them over the spades table, maybe Alex should do the same.

    • August 23, 2011 at 6:09 pm

      If you gotta post the rules to the game on the table, all of you are already losing. Who got time to read rules when sht-talking is on the menu? Nawl. You gotta come to the table already knowing said rules otherwise keep it moving. Or else…

  5. August 23, 2011 at 1:01 pm

    I don’t play Spades but I’m a veteran at Euchre (white people spades) and All Fours (Trini spades) and in both of those games that would definitely be considered renegging and someone would have been shanked.

    • August 23, 2011 at 6:10 pm

      Euchre?? I ain’t never heard of it. But glad you underdig us though. Shanking after reneging shouldn’t e’em be considered a crime.

  6. NeicyRox
    August 23, 2011 at 1:15 pm

    Of course she reneged. That’s the very rule of reneging; she played off a suit (with a spade, no less) probably because she felt played because they had them in a Catch-n-Run (You play what you know your partner is gonna cut) and was trying to be cute.
    IDK how they play where they are but we would have still won because if you renege down here (Louisiana) we take 3 of yo’ books. BOOM! Being a newbie means nothing at that spade table. Either take that negative from your points or try to make board, but shuld you renege you can never-t-ever-t play with my people again–it’s too much at stake!

    • August 23, 2011 at 6:14 pm

      YUPPP!! I thought so. GIMME THEM THREE BOOKS!!! And yes, we show no mercy for newbies in spades. Ain’t no trial period in spades!!!

  7. NeicyRox
    August 23, 2011 at 1:16 pm

    *should. whoops!

  8. LuvMeNaturally
    August 23, 2011 at 1:28 pm

    hi fives* aStatesman. That was my exat thought. Either the reneger was a vet (tryna slip that cheat in by throwing the club off at the end thinking they wouldn’t notice) or neither team was a vet. Me and my partner would never walk away on our Boston/Yoke/Yard and somebody reneged????? WTF???? Alex y’all IS NOT vets…there would have been some riots up in that piece!

    Reneging…this is a serious offense punishable by getting knocked upside your head with a fif (yes fif) of w/e dark liquor is being served that night.

    • August 23, 2011 at 6:16 pm

      “Reneging…this is a serious offense punishable by getting knocked upside your head with a fif (yes fif) of w/e dark liquor is being served that night.”

      This is very valid.

  9. mytruths
    August 23, 2011 at 1:48 pm

    Bwahahahahaha @ christianSoul

    Uh, yeah, Alex’nem had that! Somebody should’ve been stabbed. Ok, not stabbed but it’s that serious…

    • August 23, 2011 at 6:17 pm


  10. NikG
    August 23, 2011 at 2:10 pm

    Definitely reneged; textbook definition of reneged. And the other commenters are right – there are no newbies in spades. You either play right or sit off to the side and watch.

    • August 23, 2011 at 6:17 pm

      Word. Life.

  11. Serenity
    August 23, 2011 at 2:37 pm

    She deserves an ass whipping for that. If you can’t play, don’t sit down

    • August 23, 2011 at 6:18 pm

      If you can’t play, just get us water when we get thirsty. Stay away from the table.

  12. August 23, 2011 at 3:17 pm

    Luvvie… you already know. My grandmother didn’t raise no spade playing wannabe.

    First off, CALLING a Boston and pulling it off in my part of the Southern States is an automatic game over for the other team. Maybe the “newbie” was trying to avoid that, which leads to…

    Second, throwing that 9 of clubs as your LAST book? That “newbie” wasn’t so new. They KNEW they reneged, and was trying to let several hands pass before they threw it out, hoping wouldn’t nobody catch on.

    *in my Della Reese voice* Now I gotta cut ya. *pulls out switchblade*

    Finally, honest mistake (side eye on that) or not, that person got to get up from my table. You can’t play in my house no more. EVER. In all of the spade games I have ever played, I have only called a Boston 4 times in my life. I pulled it off 3 of those times. You’re not going to take that away from me by cheating. The other deck is over there, go play solitaire… because you’ll never get another spades partner, not as long as I can run my mouth.

    • TC
      August 23, 2011 at 5:18 pm

      that newbie stuff is all a game
      they knew why wait until the last hand
      BS and i wouldve flipped the table flipped out and flipped them OFF
      bump the games!

      • August 23, 2011 at 6:18 pm

        Yeah that newbie was playing bald-headed games. NOT ON MY SPADES TABLE!!!

    • August 23, 2011 at 6:18 pm

      YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!! This ENTAH comment is LIFE!!! *gives you dap*

  13. BlackBerry Molasses
    August 23, 2011 at 4:41 pm

    Textbook renege which would have been followed by a textbook ass whuppin.

    You DO NOT bring that garbage to my spades table.

    No ma’am.

    • August 23, 2011 at 6:18 pm

      You sho’ll don’t!

  14. ladyfresh85
    August 23, 2011 at 6:07 pm

    O GOD…………………..

    u see shit like that will get u fucked up! That vet was better than me. Yeah i would’ve walked away, but i sure would come back with a gun, started shootin at the newbie’s foot & tell that bitch “start riverdancing!”

    I just got pissed after reading that!!!

    • August 23, 2011 at 6:47 pm

      *DEAD* This made me holler! Lmaooo

  15. Cheekie
    August 23, 2011 at 6:35 pm

    Luvvie! Just like Spades, you KNOW dayum well blood pressuh is a staple in the Black fam! Mine is off the charts just reading this story. They reneged AND ruint a boston (which, my grandma actually called this “skunking” someone… country)?!!! Double whammy.

    I want to go to Ikea and flip tables, yo…

    • August 23, 2011 at 6:44 pm

      LOL @ skunking! Spades DO be getting blood presshas SKY HIGH!!! I’da been too butthurt!

      • Cheekie
        August 23, 2011 at 7:14 pm

        Right?! I hope Alex sends this link directly to the offender and screams, “LEARN FROM THIS!!” on some ANTM Tyra steez.

  16. RoxyWTF
    August 23, 2011 at 7:23 pm

    Last year my boyfriend (his first time playing spades)reneged so badly I almost broke up with him. I warned him “Whatever you do, don’t renege!”

    I even explained to him in explicit details what it means and how bad it is.

    So when he did it, my girl and her boo took our books and talked so much shit…

    I still give him crap to this day and he refuses to play any card games that doesn’t involve wizards or dragons. o_O

    • brookwater
      August 23, 2011 at 8:41 pm

      Whooo chile! My husband of 15 years will still not be my partner in spades because he reneged the first time we played together. The only reason I did not jump across the table on him was the fact that he had about 6 inches and 100 lbs on me. He said I scared him so bad it scarred him for life. I still clown him about it. Yeah spades is not a game and ol girl/boy most def reneged.

  17. stratosphere
    August 23, 2011 at 7:46 pm

    chile, please. that ain’ nuthin’ BUT reneging. where i’m from, not only will they not live that down ever in popular lore, but it will become part of their “vital stats” in their bio in the minds of others–even if only secretly.

  18. alex
    August 24, 2011 at 2:03 am

    Haha, It was definetly Reneggin. thanks for the insight all. guess our rules left that loophole cause the way we been playing was add three books to the bid of the team who renegged. takin them books from em now.

  19. crlsweetie912
    August 24, 2011 at 6:36 am

    Yes, the newbie is a renigger…and would have been sleeping with the fishes (next to Hoffa) and would have NOT been allowed in Big Mamma’s house for Sweet Potato pie at Thanksgiving and Chrimmus!

  20. Bukky
    August 24, 2011 at 6:26 pm

    Yes she renigged! Yes she deserves to be cussed all the way out and I hope they burn in Spades hell! (in my Samuel L. Jackson voice)

    Reading the story had me having flashbacks to when I had just moved to WI and my newbie of a partner (and new friend) renigged. Scarred me for life and pretty much ruined my relationship with her. I now only play with folks whom I’ve known longer than 5 years and I personally know their character. It’s THAT serious.
    FUGG a newbie…

    And 4 years later I’m STILL pissed! I need to go watch something happy to calm myself down.

  21. DiaShoni
    August 26, 2011 at 12:31 pm

    All I know is, I would have gotten knocked out of my chair for doing that, so I’m going to have to say yes, she did.

  22. June 9, 2012 at 12:49 pm

    In my Spades playing world if someone reneges (and doesn’t correct it before that trick is flipped) then that person’s team loses and they can be physically beaten. It’s written in my house rules, “Any intentional offense automatically forfeits the game. Anyone who intentionally violates any rule is an ass and may be physically beaten by the other players.” Either way, I found this article because I’m looking for actual scoring rules for when reneging happens. I’ve written an iPhone app that keeps score during a Spades game and I’d like to support as many rules as possible. Do you just end the game or do you score it in someway and continue?

  23. Tony Walker
    March 19, 2013 at 8:43 am

    I’m surprised yall talking about playing at the grown folks table with “Spades” $%&*_+$#!!! Come talk to me when you have graduated to “Bidwhist” where I’m a Whistologist. Don’t even start me talking about Double Deck Pinochle, yall should have matured by now. SMH!

  24. July 5, 2013 at 12:14 am

    I have a Question I played spades today at my brothers House they talked all kind of shit everybody that seat at the table me and my man whipped them I think that made them feel some type of way my last game was against my sister n law she was getting beat bad so when one of the games ended I thought the last book was ours even though we where still ahead she told me by me touching there book to see if it was ours we reneged never heard this shit in my life she took Three of our books we argued so much I didn’t even want to play anymore what u think about that nobody through off on suits are nothing just tripping

  25. Marie
    December 28, 2013 at 10:26 pm

    Ok so here is the question today I was playing spades n someone from the other team threw out a hart instead of a diamond my partner then threw out then he decides to say he had a diamond took his card back up n threw out the diamond. Last I check that was a renege am i wrong?!? N the difference of this renege was a shot n a game winner!!!!

  26. Mrchameleon
    April 15, 2014 at 2:39 pm


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  28. Chelle Bell
    May 27, 2014 at 2:53 pm

    I would have subtracted the 4 plus the extra three books…and that’s not even a question as to whether that was reneging…woulda been AAAALLLL types of cussing and carrying on

  29. Brick
    July 24, 2014 at 4:15 pm

    Awww hellll nawww. They would owe me money for pulling a stunt like that even if we were not playing for money! How often do you bid a Boston? Then to have some clown mess it up. Disgraceful!

  30. quinta
    September 15, 2014 at 11:36 pm

    I’m not a violent person but someone would’ve caught two to the body one to the head. i mean really, im swinging a sock full of hot nickles at someone

  31. Peaches
    September 15, 2014 at 11:50 pm

    Rule #1 follow suit if you have it whether you can win the book or not! Straight up Reneging. Couldn’t have been me I’m so serious when it comes to playing spades. Would have been an ass kicking for that newbie and who ever else wanted to defend her could have got it too!

  32. Dawn Geezy
    September 16, 2014 at 1:37 am

    No Jesus!! This just ain’t gonna fly. I’m mad at this today like it JUST happened to me personally, not “X” amount of years ago to a random “vet”. I reneged only once in my whole life. I was like five and just learning how to play spades. I really shouldn’t say play because this IS NOT A GAME! Anyway, I was partners with my Granny. Long story short, I reneged. My granny smacked me so hard I woke up and was six!! I have never reneged since.. I also never play spades with my granny.. EVER.

  33. veteran spades, intermediate bid whist player
    September 16, 2014 at 6:25 am

    okay I have a real spades question (because I don’t know how that could not have been reneging. like…that’s exactly what that means…) that has left a bad taste in my mouth for a couple months. my husband’s aunt is a real shit-talkin spades player (who I always politely beat bc she talks more shit than strategizes), so I hadn’t played with her in a few years – in the meantime, me and my family have been playing bid whist as our go-to (because it’s better…lol), but I go visiting his aunt after nonstop bid whist but end up playing spades and she starts accusing my brother and me of cheating and saying we’re underbidding and throwing off because we’re making our books and bids evenly and they’re accumulating sandbags. now i don’t think we were doing that at all, maybe bid whist made us better bidders, but even if we were, is that technically cheating? especially when you’re playing sandbags? doesn’t there exist a bid of nil when your goal is not to win books (or is that just white people playing hearts?) or was she just sore from losing…again.

  34. September 16, 2014 at 10:54 am

    First off I gotta say that the team with the Boston shouldn’t flip any tables, they won! The partner of the one who reneged should turn tables! I’m from Burlington Twp. NJ and renegs are part of the game. Not only do you have to catch them, but you have to call out the book. The 3 book penalty applies if you call the right book otherwise it’s reversed and you pay 3 books! House rules are cool, but never written or formalized. We would call them out just before the first hand, “big boy, little boy, deuces high, etc.” (shot out to my man K.B. who taught me all this in my younger days!) True, spade was mostly trash talk but hurt feelings only came from the opposite side of the table, never the opposing team. You’d smack your partner for throwing off suit and holding the high card only to “bump heads” later. “Why wouldn’t you swallow that Jack spades with the Ace??? Don’t you know I got big boy and little boy??? The King/queen came last hand you dolt!”

    Now that I said all that I gots to find me a decent partner and throw down!

  35. Yolanda
    September 16, 2014 at 5:22 pm

    1. Newbie was 3000% wrong!!!!!!
    2. Yall still had yall boston, because of #3
    3. When someone does renege, they have got to come up off 3 books!

    Reneging is a serious offense and should be met with swift retribution so that the offender learns from this dreadful mistake (if they live).

  36. Pic
    June 1, 2015 at 2:58 pm

    play spades plus cant renig awesome game, if you good lets see how good everyone really is. only throw of is they have nIls and blind nils. Jordan Isaiha Piccolo is my FB name no cheat no renig straight game. skill is all that matters.

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