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Mama Joyce Gotta Be Checked: RHOA Season 6, Episode 5 Recap

I didn’t recap last week’s episode of Real Housewives of Atlanta (RHOA) but cliffnotes: Apollo is a jerk, Kandi’s mama is still a fool, Kenya is living in a tiny hotel room and Porsha is heartbroken. With that being said, let’s talk about last night’s episode.


Phaedra’s Silence and Peter’s Sense – Phaedra is on her way to Alabama to take her Mortuary Sciences exam and Apollo brings his raggelly self to the car to kiss her goodbye. She basically muffed him because she ain’t here for him and I don’t blame her. Don’t piss off the Southern Belle one night and think you’re cool the next. NAWL!

Apollo goes to see Peter for advice, while rocking a red shirt, red belt, and red shoes. He wanna be me so bad. (-__-) Antywho, Cynthia’s boo tells Mr. Parks that he was dead ass wrong to tell his wife that if he wanted to sleep with Kenya he woulda. “Homegirl was tryna embarrass your wife through you.” You better listen to Uncle Ben! Shoo…

Kandi-Koated Questions – Kandi is with her BFF Carmen and the topic goes to Mama Joyce and her disdain for Todd. Her friend asks her what’s gonna happen if her mama never gets on board? MMHMMM. Good question. Also, Joyce is going around telling folks that Carmen is sleeping with Todd. Kandi’s mama is messier than bed head.

Kenya’s Move – Kenya has moved out the 2.5 star hotel room she was staying in and into a house. When her and Miss Lawrence enter the house, they comment that it’s just a temporary space because it’s small. That house was NOT small. If these nouveau non-riche folks don’t go SADDOWN somewhere! And all this money that Kenya’s talmbout she got. She ain’t got it to spend on more than 2 movers. Girl good day.

Grocery Shopping and Shock – Cynthia decides to take Nene grocery shopping with her and it seems Mrs. Leakes hasn’t been in one a store for food in ages.

Nene Grocery

She’s walking around marveling at Hot Pockets and aisles. Now Nene girl. STAHP. Even Oprah goes grocery shopping. You ain’t been that rich for that long. Anywho, Cynthia tells Nene that her daughter Noelle has a boyfriend now and her friend does not take it well. 13 is too young for official boyfriends. That’s for crushes. She’s all shocked that Nene’s shocked. NAWL, CYN!

Todd’s Welcome – Todd has been away on a work trip and he’s returning to an excited Kandi. She’s set out catered food for him and when he walks in the door, they hug, he squeezes her yansh and they sit down to eat. Right then, Kandi starts telling him the things her mother said about him, including the fact that her engagement ring isn’t expensive and he doesn’t provide for her like he should. Understandably, he loses his appetite and is frustrated. He tells Kandi that they gotta deal with this so they call Joyce and invite her to dinner. The woman’s attitude is strong through the phone. LAWD!

Noelle and Arthur – Noelle’s little boo Arthur comes over with this mom to meet Cynthia and Peter. When he says “Hey Peter” the reply is “Did you just call me Peter?” He fixed that QUICK to Mr. Peter. Damb straight. As the parents talk, the crushbirds go sit outside and he says “You look nice today, Noelle.” DDAAAAAWWWWWW!!! Ok they’re adorabo.

Noelle Arthur

Porsha’s Househunting – Porsha is thinking about getting her own place so she goes looking with her mom and her sis Lauren (who reminds me of Miss Piggy and I don’t know why). They look at a 2-bedroom apartment with a dope view but it’s $4,500 a month. FAH WUT?!?! FOR. GAHTDAMB. WHAT? Girl, bye. Porsha decides she ain’t ready to be on her own just yet and it doesn’t hurt that her mama makes her sammiches in bed.

Phaedra’s Escape – Phaedra is in Alabama with her study group learning up on embalming and dead folks stuff. And she comments that she likes this because it’s an escape away from her whiny husband and responsibilities. Dang. The fact that talmbout death is her way of relaxing? We gotta get Phae a vacation.

Mama Joyce’s Meltdown – Mama Joyce arrives at Kandi’s for dinner and when Todd greets her, she gives the most shadeful “hi” ever. The moment she sits down, she starts shrieking. She had her nerve to tell Todd that “she stepped herself down for you” and a “BITCHHH” escaped from my mouth before I knew it. This damb lady! She kept going in talmbout he doesn’t “provide” for Kandi. MA’AM. YOUR DAUGHTER DON’T NEED NOBODY TO PAY HER BILLS!

Mama Joyce

In fact, that’s clearly the point here. Mama Joyce is paranoid that if Kandi gets married, she’d get less money from her but that’s some selfish shit. Meanwhile, Todd is handling this VERY WELL because someone else woulda cussed Mama Joyce up down all the way around. He gets extra points for maintaining his cool and actually tryna talk to that unreasonable ass lady.

But I need Kandi to grow some nerve and tell her mama to butt out her business and not be rude to her love like that. Don’t be no punk! I know that’s your mama but she’s outta line, outta pocket and outta behavior. And she might lose out on love because of it.

Mama Joyce gotta procure ALL the seats and butt out her daughter’s life. UGH!

Did y’all watch this episode? Do you think Kandi is handling this well?

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  1. Grace
    December 2, 2013 at 4:23 pm

    Noelle and her little beau are too cute. As you stated Mama Joyce is worried about her pockets. She is not one bit that concerned about Kandi’s emotional well-being because she NEVER mentions that but always talks about the material/financial side. Game peeped.

    • msjai
      December 2, 2013 at 5:22 pm


      • Steph
        December 3, 2013 at 8:21 am

        Exactly, she asked if Tod could provide the lifestyle that “they” are accustomed to, smh!

      • yolands ward
        December 9, 2013 at 2:52 am

        First, 13 is too young for a boyfriend. I don’t think it should be entertained.
        Mama Joyce is right. Kandi needs someone who has what she has or more. And Carmon shoukdnt be staying in Kandi’s house while she’s out of town. THAT’S CRAZY! She’s so desperate to get married she’s not cautious enough. Todd moved in with her and her daughter way to fast. Ridiculous !

  2. December 2, 2013 at 4:31 pm

    OMG! Mama Joyce is beyond out of line. Kandi needs to speak up and stop walking away from the issue between her mother and her love life. Mama Joyce seems to be one of those old school women who believes a man should take care of them financially while they take care of the home. I personally believe this is why Mama Joyce doesn’t have a man herself. It seems as if she would rather Kandi be with a rich man who would possibly cheat on her (as Kandi said herself) than for her to be with a hard working blue collar brother that has potential for his income to grow.

    Now to come to Mama Joyce defense, I think Kandi is not a good judge of character and allows people to take advantage of her, which is why I feel like Mama Joyce goes so hard. Remember when Kandi was dating AJ? She was taking care of all his kids. So, Mama Joyce gets a few points for her overbearing self but at the end of the day, Kandi is a grown ass woman and Mama Joyce should just do what momma’s dobest, support Kandi’s choices and decisions and be a shoulder to cry on or an ear to listen in case sh*t hits the fan.

  3. HD
    December 2, 2013 at 4:34 pm

    I dunno…..I was having this discussion with a co-worker. Is Mama Joyce shelfish or overly protective? I’m hoping for the latter. Either way, she is doing too much, but hopefully her concern comes from a place of wanting to protect Kandi, and not her own pockets. All this would be null and void if Todd would just agree to a pre-nup.

    • Kwan
      December 2, 2013 at 5:40 pm

      Todd is probably going to sign the pre-nup he just didn’t answer that question to Mama Joyce the way she wanted it answered because IT AIN’T HER GAHTDAMB BUSINESS! The fact that all she talks about is money when it comes to her child’s relationship let’s you know she’s selfish and that’s why she’s alone now.

    • milaxx
      December 2, 2013 at 5:41 pm

      I get the impression that Todd is not anti-prenup, but he is anti talking about it with everyone else. It’s none of Ms. Joyce’s business what he agrees to in the prenup.

  4. rikyrah
    December 2, 2013 at 4:41 pm

    Kandi is disappointing. She needs to stand up to her mother and tell her to sit down and be quiet.

  5. A Anthony
    December 2, 2013 at 4:45 pm

    Ughhh Mama Joyce blows my liiiiiife. Kandi needs to deal with it head on instead of laughing about it. Maybe her mama on something, cause…she ain’t seem to right

  6. Amanda
    December 2, 2013 at 4:54 pm

    Kandi needs to stick up for Todd and herself. I was so uncomfortable watching that dinner. If Mama Joyce is being overprotective she’s stepping way over the line. Kandi is a grown woman she can make her own choices. I hope Kandi gets some guts soon or she’ll be alone at that altar

  7. Ashley
    December 2, 2013 at 4:58 pm

    It seems like Momma Joyce is looking for some kinda spin-off show with the antics she pulled last night. Her, Scrappy momma, Jim Jones momma, and all these other raggedy bitter old hags who can’t cut the umbilical cord, looking to join forces for a show it seems.

    But I think she was out of line. The irony is that she calls Todd an opportunist when it’s obvious she is just trying to secure her spot as number 1 in Kandi’s life so she don’t get cut off. I mean the girl gave you a house and you walking around here bugging out because there’s not 101 pictures of you on the walls?!

    Look, bottom line, she thinks if Kandi gets married there won’t be any money for her. She worried about the coins and not her daughter’s happiness. Misery loves company. Unfortunately for Kandi, misery is also dubbed momma.

    • Shakira
      December 3, 2013 at 1:57 am

      Lawd if those bitter heffas were to have a show I think my TV would explode!

    • Kim
      December 6, 2013 at 6:53 pm

      I ain’t gon’ lie. I’d watch that show. I hit and miss on these other shows (except Scandal) but I’d set the DVR for that one.

  8. Tameka
    December 2, 2013 at 4:59 pm

    I was so pissed watching Kandi wimp out last night. I applaude Todd for not choking the shit outta of Mama Joyce ( like I would’ve done). If Kandi doesn’t get her mama in line she may lose a good man. She need a man and some business so she can leave Kandi’s alone.

    • Tip
      December 4, 2013 at 10:10 am

      I think she may have lost him already. She wasn’t wearing the ring at the soul train awards that aired the same night.

  9. Toun
    December 2, 2013 at 5:08 pm

    Kandi is timid when it comes to her mom because her mom was all she had even after Riley’s dad bounced, but Mama Joyce is only thinking of self; she went as far as to lie on her granddaughter so, i kinda lost respect for her.

  10. Jazzee
    December 2, 2013 at 5:15 pm

    I’m over Kenya. How is she pulling up in a Kia talking about that house is too small. I had to rewind the scene just to see who was in the Benz or the Kia. How is Kenya letting the ladyboy Lawrence out do her. Oh she kills me. She needs to act her wage for real.

    • Opal.NdaRuff
      December 2, 2013 at 5:29 pm

      A Kia though? You know the lease on one of them is only like $150…I can’t.

      • Vonetta
        December 3, 2013 at 11:55 am

        Shoooot…I need to look into one, then!

    • Tip
      December 4, 2013 at 10:16 am

      LMBO at “act your wage”

      My husband caught it because my mind was playing tricks on me. I could’ve sworn she got out of Lawrence’s car. He said it was a Hyundai elantra. I said it wad a Kia Optima. Either way I need her to have all the seats in the Georgia dome.

  11. freshie85
    December 2, 2013 at 5:26 pm

    Now lord knows I love, honor, & cherish my mother BUT……………..if she was to act like mama joyce I’d have to read her for filth in a humble way. I understand it being her only child & she’s protective but GAHTDAMB! Kandi ain’t wearing diapers anymore……….but u on the other hand is on verge of wearing them yourself but that’s another subject for another day. I hope Kandi just put her foot down!!! It’s time!

  12. milaxx
    December 2, 2013 at 5:38 pm

    I have to admit I had a boyfriend at 13. I twas mostly group dates and holding hands, but we did legit kiss. It just didn’t go any further than that. That said, I think Cynthia handled it right. What else you gonna do when your child says she has a boyfriend at 13? Cynthia is right to meet all parties involved, set some ground rules and try and keep those communication lines open. Looks like next week we get to see fine Leon, so she’s keeping the bio dad in the loop as well.

    Peter was back to making sense this week as well. He handled little Arthur talking to him like he was grown and dropped some knowledge on stupid Apollo. If Apollo had any sense, he’d have a bed of roses, gourmet meal, kids sent to the babysitter, bubble bath ready apology waiting for Phaedra when she got home. Kenya may be crazy, but you played a part in that mess. Acknowledge and move on.

    Ms. Joyce. *sigh* I give ALL the pros to Todd. Not only did he stay respectful of Ms Joyce and her insanity, he told Kandi she needed to handle her mama.

  13. Kwan
    December 2, 2013 at 5:47 pm

    Cynthia did it correct. All parents meet, I’m sure Leon will meet him later since I think he lives in Cali anyway. I said the same thing on twitter about him calling Peter by his first name Arthur lawd lmao. They should just go on group dates nothing serious but they were too cute.

    If Kandi don’t check Joyce she might as well hang up her freakum dresses because no one wants to deal w/ crazy in-laws. Todd really did look like he wanted to curse her out and he would have been in every right to do so especially going around spreading rumors about him sleeping with her daughter’s friend really Joyce?!?!?

    Kenya girl bye and the same to Nene I love her but her new money attitude irks me. Like when she went to visit Kenya in the hotel talm bout ooh the ghetto. Isn’t that where you’re from honey? Kenya needs to act her wage.

  14. jimmie
    December 2, 2013 at 5:51 pm

    Ok I had to put my tv on mute & turn on the closed captions because I couldn’t take that shrieking from Ms Joyce. Damn lady are you drunk? Kandi is in a difficult position, I understand that, but right then was not the time to go get that damn pie! She is going to have to assert herself & take that leap & Ms Joyce is going to have to do what parents do – LET HER! That’s a grown level headed woman. Shit if Ms Joyce needs something to occupy her time, Michael’s Craft store has classes damn near every day of the week. Hell, make a damn bracelet.
    Hmmm….Todd & the prenup…..he didn’t really seem like he was pulling out his pen to sign one. But that is a conversation for Kandi and Todd alone because it is not Ms Joyce, Esq. Kandi is not a fool, not with money.

    • Steph
      December 3, 2013 at 8:34 am

      LMAO @ Micael’s classes! Mama Joyce definitely needs a hobby.

  15. Emily
    December 2, 2013 at 5:55 pm

    LOL!! ” FAH WUT?!?! FOR. GAHTDAMB. WHAT?” <— THAT paused everything for me for atleast 5 minutes. LOLOL

    • TealSurvivor
      December 4, 2013 at 10:51 pm

      Right!! I still get tickled every time I think about that and actually caught myself saying it at work! LOL

  16. ChiChiBoo
    December 2, 2013 at 6:07 pm

    Kandi’s momma was out of order, it’s so obvious that she is scared that her check gonna be short now that Kandi I looking to get married. It seems all her “people” are worried about Todd coming in and cutting their checks short. what’s up with that, maybe it’s not Todd that’s taking advantage of her and they don’t want him (outside looking in) to see that. Kandi needs to grow some or else, it will just be her, momma Joyce and all those bedroom Kandi products,. She’s gonna make her daughter lose out on someone that it appears really do care for her.
    I’m sorry, there is no way my daughter would have a boyfriend at 13. That is just way too young and for the parents to be endorsing it is beyond me. I had a boyfriend at 13, but he was SCHOOL ONLY boyfriend. which meant we were a couple at school, no phone calls, no dating etc. my momma wasn’t playing that. Cynthia needs to shut that down IMO
    Poor Porsha, “what is we gon’ do”, she really needs to take some life skills classes or something because she is just walking around with her head in the clouds and she just don’t know what to do with yourself, and her momma “babying” her behind don’t make it no better. She is just primed for the next “father figure” to come along and give her a life.
    Kenya, well what can you say about her that ain’t already been said.
    Apollo & Phaedra- Yes, what Apollo did was wrong and disrespectful, and he appears to have apologized, but what does Phaedra want him to do. I thought the whole meeting with the Ladies was to explain/apologize for the whole sexting scandal. I guess Apollo needs to pull out Phaedra’s credit card and get his “Kobe” on if he want’s to get out of the doghouse

    • milaxx
      December 2, 2013 at 10:50 pm

      The cat is out the bag though. Trying to shut it down will only lead to sneaking around and such. The best she can do is be glad Noelle is talking to her openly and keep it that way.

    • taliba
      December 4, 2013 at 11:17 am

      LMAO at that Porsha “what is we gon do” phrase. I so dislike this empty headed utter bimbo. She’s a walking ad for “trophy” wife abuse. How didi she get this way with an activist grandfather?!

      As for Kandi’s mother; she respects her Mom but she’s going to end up with ONLY her mom if she doesn’t take care of business. I love my Mama too, but sometimes we have to grow up and take care of our own emotional and mental health. Todd appears to reallly love her- and Mama Joyce is preaching “Ain’t no High enough” lyrics to him?!Please.

  17. Mo
    December 2, 2013 at 6:31 pm

    Great recap as always. I just want to say, at first everyone had all white range rovers, now I’m guessing they were gifted with all white benzs and bmws. Smh! I do feel like Kandi should have at least let the man eat. He was barely through the door and he had to hear about her psycho mama. I mean, it should be discussed, but geez. Last thing, Kandi has to learn that you can check mama without being vulgar or disrespectful. She has to put on her big girl panties. She’s in a position where she will more than likely, she will always be the breadwinner.

  18. Court
    December 2, 2013 at 7:39 pm

    I’m on the fence about Mama Joyce. I have to believe that Kandi wouldn’t put her momma out here like this (assuming she has any editing approval)…if there wasn’t something else going on. Has Kandi gotten married yet? Like, in real time? I am going to watch this play out. I am convinced that something is going on.

    • RavenJ
      December 2, 2013 at 7:59 pm

      I keep saying the same thing! I’m like there may be more to Toad than meets the eye. Yes I know I typed Toad…I’m just not completely sold on him yet. Wow! I just realized that I’m looking at this like it’s a drama television series and not “real” life.

  19. Will
    December 2, 2013 at 7:42 pm

    I say Mama Joyce was tipsy on some communion wine – she sound just like she did a few seasons back when they had strippera at Kandi’s party.

    Now if it ain’t a few nips of the Jack Daniels then I say this – she is protective of her daughter because she more than likely has taken care of Kandi until Kandi could take care of herself and became what she is today. Perhaps she is afraid that Todd may have less than honorable intentions for Kandi and her money – don’t know.

    Kandi needs to set some boundaries about what se wants and when she wants it – she is going to be 60 trying to get her momma to approve we relationship and based on Mama Joyce and her “the pies good” comment – she is not warming up to Todd prior to the last day on earth and even then she might be not too close.

    So if Mama Joyce don’t stop drankin’ and Kandi don’t man up – a change ain’t gonna come and about 20 years from now Mama Joyce will be put away when she go off on one more man that Kandi want to share her life with.

  20. Serenity
    December 2, 2013 at 8:13 pm

    I had a boyfriend at 13. It was talking on the phone and eating together at lunch. Nothing more. By making a big deal about this now, is just going to make that girl sneaky. Trust me I know…..

    • Serenity
      December 2, 2013 at 8:14 pm

      She was wrong for asking nene’s opinion. Nene has boys and whorish ones at that

  21. Tbapremier1
    December 2, 2013 at 10:09 pm

    Overall the show is moving along nicely. Not too much ridiculous drama. But momma Joyce!?!?!? Sheeeeeeiiidddd Kandi better tell her momma to have a seat before she runs her man off. For real I think her mom is concerned about her very own pockets but I do think she’s also worried about being left out. This is a classic case of Momma needs a hobby or a man too. So many relationships fail because of too involved family members. Todd does not appear to be an opportunist in the least. But we only see the edited version of who he is. I would have politely told my mom I love you but this is who I’m going to be with like it or not.

  22. December 2, 2013 at 11:14 pm

    But did y’all peep next episode where mama joyce is acting even more foolish. Couldn’t be me…

  23. Malia702
    December 3, 2013 at 8:06 am

    I’m #TeamMama Joyce! LOL. I dont agree with her delivery, but trust — men come and men go – your mama will always be there…esp. in Kandi’s case where she has a close relationship with her mother. Kandi, listen to your mama gurl!!

    Kandi needs to get her mother in line, but I feel some of this drama is a lil made for TV – aint nobody’s mama THAT much out of pocket! I’m loving every minute of it and bring on the Carmen drama too!

    • Steph
      December 3, 2013 at 8:41 am

      I think she should listen to her mom’s concerns and even evaluate them to see if their is any truth to it. But, Mama Joyce is still way out of line and her level of disrespect is way too much. Men come and go, but this is a man she’s considering marrying, so her mother needs to respect that and switch up that delivery. She may have some valid arguments, but who can really hear it through her through what looks like a drunken tirade…

  24. Steph
    December 3, 2013 at 8:36 am

    I was so annoyed when Kandi was talking to Todd about what Mama Joyce has been saying and laughing! AND, she had the nerve to leave him alone with her crazy mom while she walked in the kitchen doing nothing; a mess! I understand having respect for your mom, but as an adult you have to make your own decisions right or wrong, ad even though I’m not the biggest Todd Fan, its Kandi’s choice to make. Mama Joyce being older and Kandi’s mother doesn’t give her a right to be disrespectful. Todd was very mature, but Kandi is the only one that can demand her mother be respectful to him. I seriously doubt that I could have been that mature and not have cussed her out.

    That’s a really tough situation, I feel for Kandi but she’s gonna have to man up if she expects to be married. I mean seriously, eve her own daughter said that to her!

  25. CM
    December 3, 2013 at 9:35 am

    Kandi needs to step up to her Mama and tell her she needs to not only respect Todd, but respect their relationship. If Kandi is single, who is providing for Kandi then? Kandi is! She has her own money, nothing wrong with that and just because Todd doesn’t live the lavish lifestyle Kandi has recently grown accustomed to doesn’t mean he can’t provide her with friendship, warmth, stability and security.
    Kandi needs to step up and handle her mother.

    December 3, 2013 at 2:14 pm

    I hope Mammy Joyce is wrong in “ALLLLLL” her assumptions and what she’s heard from the “STREETS” (SMH)… Please be wrong Mammy Joyce! Kandi deserves happiness so PLEASE BE WRONG!… Folk need to let this one play out first! and Hope that Mammy Joyce has truly been sippin on the Brown liquor! :-/

  27. Amethyst
    December 12, 2013 at 2:28 am

    I’m honestly believe Joyce’s behaviour is scripted foolywang. So she just came back this season, super crazy and wildin’ out? Nah son, she’s ‘extra’ acting. Why? Time will tell…

  28. CDM
    December 12, 2013 at 10:49 pm
    • JanuaryBabe
      January 23, 2014 at 8:12 pm

      Dayumn Skippy! You hit the nail on the head!